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Want to make multiple streams of income<\/strong>? Well, guess what? You DON\u2019T need to buy more properties <\/strong>to do it. Instead, you can turn an existing rental property into a cash cow<\/strong>\u2026but it has to meet the right qualifications. This is precisely what today\u2019s first guest, Stacie<\/strong>, is looking for. She\u2019s got multiple properties, and some have enough land to add a second rental property<\/strong>. But is doing development worth the high cash flow?<\/p>\n Welcome back to Seeing Greene<\/strong>, where David and Rob answer real estate questions from BiggerPockets listeners just like you! First, we\u2019ll talk to Stacie about her buy vs. build<\/strong><\/a> dilemma, and which makes MUCH more sense in today\u2019s market. Then, an investor struggling to save up <\/strong>down payments<\/strong><\/a> asks what he should do: save, invest elsewhere, or pay down his mortgages<\/strong>. Finally, David gives some swift advice on using a home equity \u201cagreement\u201d<\/a> and how to make the MOST money on your house hack<\/strong>.<\/p>\n Want to ask David a question? If so, <\/strong>submit your question here<\/strong><\/a> so David can answer it on the next episode of Seeing Greene. Hop on the BiggerPockets forums<\/strong><\/a> and ask other investors their take, or follow David on Instagram<\/strong><\/a> to see when he\u2019s going live so you can jump on a live Q&A and get your question answered on the spot!<\/p>\n David Greene: Stacie: David Greene: Rob: Stacie: Rob: David Greene: Stacie: David Greene: Stacie: David Greene: Stacie: David Greene: Stacie: David Greene: Stacie: David Greene: Stacie: David Greene: Stacie: David Greene: Stacie: David Greene: Rob: David Greene: Stacie: David Greene: Stacie: David Greene: Stacie: David Greene: Stacie: David Greene: Rob: David Greene: Chris Lloyd: David Greene: Nick Lynch: David Greene: \u00a0<\/p>\n<\/div>\n Help us reach new listeners on iTunes by leaving us a rating and review! It takes just 30 seconds and instructions can be found here<\/a>. Thanks! We really appreciate it!<\/p>\n Interested in learning more about today\u2019s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email <\/em>[email\u00a0protected]<\/span><\/em><\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n Note By BiggerPockets:<\/b> These are opinions written by the author and do not necessarily represent the opinions of BiggerPockets.<\/p>\n
This is the BiggerPockets Podcast. What\u2019s going on everyone? It\u2019s David Greene, your host of the BiggerPockets Real Estate podcast, coming to you from Kauai, and that\u2019s one of the things I love about real estate is I get to bring you guys questions from our listener base from everywhere in the world. My hope is that more of you can get to the same position and we\u2019re going to share some advice today that will help you do just that. Today\u2019s Seeing Greene episode has a lot of good stuff, including what a home equity agreement is and if one should be used. The best ways to reinvest the cashflow that you\u2019re making from your current portfolio today and how you should be thinking about it and a live call with one of our listeners where we go back and forth.
Helping them determine if they should take the money they\u2019ve made in real estate and improve the properties they have or if they should buy new properties and if so, what to be thinking about when going back and forth with that decision. A lot of people in today\u2019s market have equity and they\u2019re trying to figure out how they should use it, and sometimes that means buying more real estate, but sometimes that means improving the real estate they have. I especially like this topic because a lot of people have equity and they\u2019re tapping into it with HELOCs, but they\u2019re not sure if they should use that HELOC money to scale into a bigger portfolio or improve what they\u2019ve got. So we tackle that and more on today\u2019s episode of Seeing Greene.
We\u2019re going to bring in our first guest in a second, but before we do a quick tip for you all. You\u2019re going to hear more about it in the next question, but I am a firm believer, especially if you\u2019ve got a short-term rental that tapping into your equity and using that money to improve the property, improve the decor, add amenities to it, make it look nicer, get better pictures taken, is a quick way to get a return on your capital that can then be used to pay the equity line of credit back down. I don\u2019t love in today\u2019s market taking $200,000 out of a house at a pretty high interest rate and using that for the down payment on a property that you then have to get another loan for the other 80% and stacking up debt when rates are higher.
I\u2019m a much bigger fan of a get in and get out strategy, kind of like using a jet ski instead of a battleship. Take out some equity, fix up your house, improve the revenue, and then pay the equity loan off with that revenue and then, ask yourself how you can do it again. How can you recycle that same 20 or $30,000 to improve the properties you\u2019ve got and win in the short-term rental wars? All right, let\u2019s get to our first guest today. Let\u2019s welcome Stacie to the studio. Stacie, welcome to Seeing Greene. A little bit of background about you. You\u2019ve got a single family property, a duplex, and a piece of property in the Austin area, in New Braunfels, Texas. So funny story here, I almost invested in New Braunfels myself about five years ago and wish I would have, because I would have done very well.
I fell prey to that same problem of, well, when I first heard about it was this much and now it\u2019s $50,000 more. I don\u2019t want to get in too late and made the same mistake that I tell everybody else not to make because I learned it in that example. So congratulations on doing the right do and having a New Braunfels property. So, tell us what\u2019s on your mind today.<\/p>\n
Thank you. Yes, so considering those properties we have and our long-term strategy of buy and hold, which we\u2019re a 100% in on, so we have this property in New Braunfels. We actually bought it site unseen and it was a very good purchase for us. It\u2019s zoned multifamily. It\u2019s one block from the Guadalupe River, so it has a single family home on there where we have a long-term renter, but we have the opportunity to develop it because it\u2019s already zoned for multifamily. It\u2019s half an acre lot. Then, we have this plot, this quarter acre plot in Lago Vista near Lake Travis that was given to us from family that also has development opportunity.
So we have these two properties that we own, that have development opportunities, but also, we\u2019re tempted to buy our next investment property. So we\u2019re at the point of trying to decide do we stay the course, leave those properties as is because we have a long-term renter in New Braunfels, we\u2019re cash flowing about $600 a month there, so it\u2019s well paying for itself and then some. Then, we have this lot that\u2019s just sitting there vacant that we\u2019re trying to figure out what to do with. Our duplex in South Austin is cash flowing about $2,100 a month. So we have two long-term rentals there. We\u2019re not looking to develop or do anything with that right now. So we\u2019re at that kind of inflection point.
Do we buy our next investment property or is now the time that we actually do some forced equity and develop the New Braunfels property or build something in Lago Vista?<\/p>\n
Alrighty.<\/p>\n
My first question here is what is the reason that you want to get into the next property? Is the reason you want to get into the next property simply for the sake of growth and you\u2019re like, \u201cHey, I just want to add to the portfolio. I don\u2019t really need the cash flow,\u201d or do you want to get into another property because you want more cash flow because you need an extra couple of hundred bucks every month?<\/p>\n
We don\u2019t need the extra cash every month. We want to grow the portfolio and we also want to invest sort of, I know it\u2019s not about timing the markets, time in market, but it still feels like now is a good time before everyone is back in the market, should rates come down. So we\u2019re kind of feeling that, wanting to get the next property because we do want to grow the portfolio, but also, when is it time to actually develop these properties that we\u2019re sitting on too? So we\u2019re kind of don\u2019t know which way to go necessarily.<\/p>\n
I think if you\u2019re not pressed for the cash flow and you\u2019ve got a lot and you\u2019ve got a property that is zoned for more property, I\u2019m a big fan of making as many streams of income off of one property as possible. So, if you have the steam and if you have sort of the dedication and I guess the open mind to just go through a new construction, then I think you should do it. A big fan, I actually think that new construction is just the best way to combat a lot of things that are happening right now because yes, you will be getting something at a higher interest if you buy a property. So for me, I\u2019m like, I think if you can go and build something at your cost without the markup of someone \u2026 if you go and buy a new construction off of Redfin, you\u2019re paying their cost and you\u2019re paying a premium for it, right?
So if you can go and build something at your cost, it\u2019s not really that same markup as getting it off the MLS and when you refi out and get your money out, you\u2019ll have a higher interest rate on that of course, but it won\u2019t hurt quite as bad as having gone and purchased a property straight off the MLS, if that makes sense. So if you have the ability to wait it out for let\u2019s say 12 to 18 months, then I definitely think building from the ground up is a really smart thing to do right now.<\/p>\n
All right. I will weigh in on this too. I love the question. It comes up a lot where I live in the Bay Area, you typically see this in more expensive areas, where the question is do I build an ADU or do I buy a new house? And the tricky thing is you can\u2019t finance the build. If you could finance the build, it would almost always be an easy, \u201cYeah, just improve the property you\u2019ve got.\u201d The problem is you got to put a lot of capital down to do it. So I like to try to simplify this turning into apples to apples as much as I can. And I asked the question of, for the capital I\u2019m going to put into this thing, how much cash flow am I going to receive?
What\u2019s the ROI on that and how much equity am I going to build? What\u2019s the return on investment on that? So if you were to add to the property that you already have, how much money would you have to put down to do this and do you think it would increase the equity<\/p>\n
For the New Braunfels property, we probably would have to put down about 200,000 in capital to build an ADU, at least an ADU, right? A prefab ADU would probably be about 200,000, all in. For the Lago Vista property, we\u2019re looking at probably 250 upwards to half a million of capital to put in to develop that property, because it is raw land, it\u2019s going to require a lot more clearance and work to get that property ready for building. So I don\u2019t think we would do both at the same time. I think we\u2019re kind of anxious to really look at \u2026 I think the New Braunfels property has the most potential because it is such a growing area and the location of it is prime, being a block from the Guadalupe River. So I think there\u2019s a lot of upside to developing New Braunfels from all that I can tell.<\/p>\n
So if you put the $200,000 into New Braunfels, would you add equity to the property?<\/p>\n
Yes, I believe we would add equity to the property.<\/p>\n
How much do you think you\u2019d be adding?<\/p>\n
I think we probably would be adding \u2026 we bought it two years ago. We have probably about \u2026 I\u2019m going to say about 40,000 in equity in just the past two years in the property. So if we add an ADU, we\u2019d also have to configure the front house a bit too to put the ADU in. I don\u2019t know, but I\u2019m going to guess that we would probably add about \u2026 immediately about a hundred, 150,000 in equity in that property. Does that sound about right, the numbers I\u2019ve shared?<\/p>\n
I don\u2019t know the area. Yeah, it could. It could work. What about the cash flow? If you build an ADU for $200,000, what will it rent for?<\/p>\n
Yeah, because right now, we\u2019re renting, all in P and I is like 1800. 18, 1900 we\u2019re renting for 25 on the single family home, so we\u2019ve got nice cash flow there. We can build up to 1,000 square foot ADU without it being considered a second principal structure on the property. So 1,000 square foot, we could probably rent that, I\u2019m going to say around 18, 1900 in today\u2019s market for 1,000 square feet.<\/p>\n
Okay. Would this increase the property taxes on the property if you add to this work, make it worth more?<\/p>\n
Most likely.<\/p>\n
And then where are they at New Braunfels like two and a half percent or so?<\/p>\n
No, it\u2019s right around 2%. It\u2019s like 1.97, something like that. Yeah.<\/p>\n
So that is a pretty healthy return. I mean, you\u2019re having additional property taxes and there\u2019s going to be more insurance, but still, I believe you said it was 1800, you think that you\u2019d rent it for?<\/p>\n
Yes.<\/p>\n
So let\u2019s say you keep say, 1400 of that to invest 200,000. That\u2019s not a bad deal there. You\u2019re not too far off from the 1% rule. The downside would be you\u2019re spending $200,000 to add $100,000 of equity, so you\u2019re actually losing equity in a sense because you\u2019re transferring that money from your bank account into the property. You\u2019re going to lose $100,000 of value there, but you\u2019re going to gain the extra cash flow of say, $1,400 a month or $1,300 a month. Now, here\u2019s why I framed it that way. I think your job here, Stacie, is to ask yourself with this $200,000, if I put it into a different investment vehicle, could I get better than say 13 or $1,400 a month and avoid losing a $100,000 of equity? Could you put $200,000 into building a new home construction that you might gain $100,000 of equity at the end instead of losing it?
That\u2019s a $200,000 swing, or maybe you get better cash flow, maybe the cash flow is not as good, but you don\u2019t lose as much equity. Have you looked into opportunities like that?<\/p>\n
I haven\u2019t, no.<\/p>\n
Okay. That\u2019s how my mind goes to it. What if you paid cash for something that was $200,000, maybe a fixer upper, you fixed it up and then, you refinanced out of it, you could do it again, or you could buy a million dollar property, put $200,000 down, so you\u2019ve got those. In my mind, you\u2019ve got the three options. You put it as a down payment on something, you pay cash for something or you put it into the property you have. Rob, what are you thinking?<\/p>\n
Yeah, I guess I\u2019d really want to \u2026 and we\u2019re not going to be able to solve for this on this episode unfortunately, but I\u2019d want to know what kind of equity we\u2019d be adding because I think it\u2019s, I\u2019m not going to say rare, but I feel like if you\u2019re building something on your property such as an ADU or a secondary unit, I feel like the equity that you\u2019re building should be pretty commensurate with the amount of money that you\u2019re investing, right? So it\u2019s like I think if you were going to spend 200 but you\u2019re only getting a $100,000 in equity, then yeah, I would agree with David. I probably wouldn\u2019t do that.
I\u2019d go find somewhere where I\u2019d get the one for one ratio on that, but I do wonder if you would get that full equity out of adding an addition to the property. If the answer is yes, I would go that route and then build it and then, do a cash-out refi and try to get as much of that money back, because if you do that and you get a pretty significant portion of your money back, then your ROI skyrockets in that point. I\u2019m a big fan of this strategy solely because you get to stack income streams on one property and it really makes a huge difference. I had a property in LA. When I bought it, it was $400 mortgage. I\u2019ve since refinanced, it\u2019s like 4,200 now, but I now rent out the main home, which goes for \u2026 anywhere from 3,500 to $5,000 a month.
I\u2019ve got an ADU in the backyard that goes for anywhere from 2300 to $3,000 a month, and I even have a third unit that I don\u2019t rent out, but I used to, and that was another $2,000 for that unit. So when you added it all up, it was like $8,000 on one property and your profit margins on that are just so healthy. Your landscaping bills are all consolidated to that one property. All of your bills are just consolidated into this one business, and that\u2019s why I\u2019m a big fan of building up basically as many income streams on one property as possible, assuming that your equity that you put in is one for one on the investment that you put in.<\/p>\n
That\u2019s the key there, Stacie. I don\u2019t love the deal if you\u2019re putting in more money than you\u2019re gaining in equity. Hearing that, what\u2019s going through your mind.<\/p>\n
Yeah. No, that makes a ton of sense. I\u2019m not 100% on all the numbers. This is as far as I\u2019ve been able to get, but I will dig deeper in terms of the actual equity we\u2019d be able to get out of that property. Yeah, and just to throw a curveball here, right? Our house in Los Angeles, we\u2019re in the San Fernando Valley, we\u2019re in Encino up in the hills. That\u2019s why my internet is a little spotty. I mean, we were originally going to keep this house and sell it or not sell it, but use that as sort of our investment property here, rent it out. Our latest thinking was to sell this house to buy more properties in Texas.
So we\u2019re trying to treat all of our homes as sort of part of the portfolio and how do we leverage them to the maximum, and I know David, you\u2019re up in Northern California, but I don\u2019t know, we were sort of starting to think that we just wanted to get out of California.<\/p>\n
Shocking. I\u2019ve never heard anybody say this.<\/p>\n
Yeah, never, right?<\/p>\n
Yeah. It\u2019s something to think about because you probably have a lot of equity there. I don\u2019t think it would benefit you to sell it and put the money into Texas, unless you know where you\u2019re going to put the money, and it sounds like you got to figure that problem out first. Where are we going to deploy our capital and how are we going to deploy it? I don\u2019t think it\u2019s going to be as simple as let\u2019s just build onto what we already have. There may be something where I would want to take some of that cash and look for a way to buy something that was maybe distressed that I could fix up and add value to it, although it\u2019s not bad building an ADU in that area where you know you\u2019re going to have tenants, you know the values are going to be going up.
It\u2019s not going to hurt you. I just hate those high Texas property taxes, right? If the property value does go up, those taxes hurt out of the cash flow you\u2019d be getting.<\/p>\n
They do, and insurance is going up too, so that\u2019s every year, steadily insurance is going up.<\/p>\n
That\u2019s right. Well, thank you Stacie. This was a good question. I think more and more people are asking this question because rates are high, so it\u2019s not an automatic, yes, I should go buy another property. Now, the rates are getting really high. It\u2019s hard to make them cash flow. So we\u2019re starting to ask questions like this, so thank you for bringing this up.<\/p>\n
Thank you guys.<\/p>\n
Thank you, Stacie.<\/p>\n
Thank you.<\/p>\n
All right, thank you Stacie for joining us today. I just dropped Rob off at a Chipotle, so I\u2019ll be flying solo for the rest of today\u2019s episode, but big thank you to Rob for joining. I was so appreciative that I actually left him with a dollar so he could get some extra guac on that burrito that he loves so much. His tip for getting the most out of one property is a great takeaway and I appreciate him sharing that. If you would like to have Rob and I, or me or anyone else in the BP universe answer your specific questions, head over to biggerpockets.com\/david where you can submit them and that will make me like you. If you\u2019ve submitted a question to Seeing Greene, you can consider yourself my friend, and when we see each other at BP Con, I will take a picture with you, hug you and say something nice.
I hope you\u2019re getting some value out of today\u2019s conversation and our listener questions so far, but we\u2019ve got more coming up after this section. I like to take a minute in the middle of our shows to share comments that you all have left on YouTube or when you review the podcast. Our first review comes from 1981 South Bay. \u201cLove the Seeing Greene episodes. I love these episodes and it\u2019s a great addition to have Rob on the series. My wife and I have been listening to Bigger Pockets for two years. We finally just bought our first two duplexes and are planning to acquire more properties. We could not have done it without this podcast and the community. Thank you, David, Rob, and the entire BP community.\u201d
Well, thank you South Bay for a five-star review. That\u2019s freaking awesome. I hope some of our listeners go and follow your lead and also, if you\u2019re in the South Bay of the Northern California Bay Area, we\u2019re basically neighbors. I live about an hour away from you, so make sure that you reach out on Instagram. Let me know you are the one who left that comment and let\u2019s see, if we can get you coming up to some of the meetups that I do in Northern California. We\u2019ve got some comments here from the Seeing Greene episode 840 that came directly off of the YouTube channel. The first one comes from Dan Cohan. \u201cThanks for sharing this awesome video. I really relate to the struggles of estimating renovation costs, especially when you\u2019re investing in real estate from far away.\u201d And then Laura Peffer added, \u201cYes, please do an entire show on To Cash Flow or Not to Cash flow.\u201d
Well, you\u2019ve spoken and we\u2019ve listened. We actually did record a show on when it\u2019s okay or maybe not okay to buy non-cash flowing properties and I will talk to our production staff about putting a show together that says, is cash flow the only reason to invest in real estate or is it okay to not invest in it? Maybe we\u2019ll have a back and forth where we have the cash flow defenders and the appreciation avengers or however we\u2019re going to call that. In case you missed it, go back and listen to episode 853, which was released on December 6th where we break down three negative cashflow deals. All right, let\u2019s get into the next question. All right, our next question comes from Roy Gottsteiner. He is a foreign national living abroad, so he\u2019s having a difficult time getting financing.
He can only get 60 to 65% loan to value ratios and no access to products like FHA or HELOC. Roy started four years ago investing in North Carolina and Ohio and currently has a portfolio of 10 single-family housing rentals. He does mainly BRRR and long-term traditional rentals and recently started doing some medium terms. Roy says, \u201cHi David. These episodes are extremely helpful and are helping me to constantly adjust my thinking based on the current market dynamics as well as my own position in the investing journey, so thanks for everything. I built a portfolio of 10 units, which cashflow two to $3,000 a month. I\u2019m 35 and I have a great job, so I don\u2019t need this income and intend to reinvest all of it.\u201d
\u201cI\u2019m trying to think of the best way to use that money to further enhance my progress towards financial independence. Here\u2019s some options I had in mind, but happy to hear your thoughts. If there\u2019s anything else I need to be thinking of. Investing it regularly into a stock index and dollar cost averaging for a long-term hold. Dollar cost averaging basically means you just keep buying stock even if the price is dropping. It\u2019s funny that we came up with this phrase, dollar cost averaging to say, well just keep buying even if the price is going lower because eventually it\u2019s going to go up and you will have bought it at a lower average than the prices when they were high. Number two, paying off mortgages on my investment properties to reduce leverage and increase cashflow.\u201d
\u201cNumber three, save the money and try finding a creative finance deal with a 30,000 dollar entry each year. My last purchase was a sub two with a 42,000 dollar entry, and it was a great one. Looking forward to your sage advice.\u201d All right, thank you for that question. I appreciate that. I can answer this one pretty quick. I don\u2019t love the idea of paying off your mortgages, especially because if you bought them and you have 10 of them, they probably have pretty low rates right now, so you\u2019re not saving a ton of money doing that. You also have to pay a ton of mortgage off before you actually don\u2019t have to make the payment when it\u2019s owned free and clear, so you don\u2019t really see the return on that money for years.
It might be 10, 15, 20 years of trying to pay these things off before you actually get rid of that interest on your mortgage. So what will happen is you\u2019ll build the equity in it faster, but you won\u2019t put money in your bank faster. So I don\u2019t love that idea and I don\u2019t love investing into the stock index, because I don\u2019t want to give advice about something that I don\u2019t really understand and I don\u2019t know that there\u2019s any solid advice I can give anybody when it comes to investing in stocks. I also just think you\u2019ll do better with real estate long term. So your third option, saving the money and trying to find a creative finance deal like the one you did last time is pretty good.
And here\u2019s why I like that. If you don\u2019t find the creative finance deal, you just have more reserves and you\u2019re never going to find me upset about someone who has a lot of reserves, especially considering the economy that we are going into. In the past, success was all about scaling and acquiring. How many doors can you get? That was the cocktail party brag, I have this many doors. In the future, I believe, it\u2019s going to be, what can you keep? How can you hold on to the real estate you\u2019ve already bought? And reserves can be a huge factor in saving you there. All right, moving into our next question. This comes from Chris Lloyd in Hampton Roads, Virginia.<\/p>\n
Hey David. My name is Chris Lloyd from Newport News, Virginia. And here\u2019s my question. I currently have a property I was looking to renovate and I plan to fund this renovation using a HELOC. I\u2019ve got two properties with some good equity in it and I found out recently that I can\u2019t qualify for a HELOC because I\u2019ve been self-employed for less than two years. Took my business full-time a little over a year ago. So I\u2019ve been looking in other ways to finance this project and came across home equity agreements. This isn\u2019t something I\u2019ve really heard talked about on the podcast and I was wondering if there was a reason why. If this is a newer product, if it\u2019s just getting traction or if this product is absolute junk, I don\u2019t know. So I\u2019m asking what instances would this make sense for someone to use and when and would it not make sense?<\/p>\n
All right, Chris, thank you for that question. Appreciate it. My advice would be, no, I don\u2019t think you should take on a home equity agreement unless you\u2019re in dire financial straits. And even if you are, I\u2019d probably prefer that you sold the house, took your equity and moved on to something else. All right, our last question is going to come from Nick Lynch and it\u2019s a video question.<\/p>\n
Hey David, this is Nick Lynch from Sacramento, California. Thank you for everything that you and BiggerPockets do. I love you guy\u2019s content. I\u2019m hoping to buy my first home in the greater Sacramento area of California when my current lease ends April 30th of 2024. My question for you is what would be the best method to get in to my first home and into investing at the same time, given how high the prices are in California. I\u2019m considering house hacking, house hopping, or simply buying a primary residence I\u2019m comfortable living in long-term and using the remainder of the fund that would have after a down payment to maybe invest in out-of-state property that could capital more easily.
My biggest concern with house hacking or house hopping in California, that the property is so expensive, it would take a very large down payment to get those properties to cash flow even after living in them for a couple of years. Thanks, David. Appreciate the help.<\/p>\n
All right, Nick, glad you reached out. We actually do a lot of business in the David Greene team in the Sacramento area, and we help people with stuff like this all the time. The key to house hacking is not about paying the mortgage down or buying a cheap home. The key to house hacking successfully, and by that I mean moving out of it and having it cash for later. What I often call the sneaky rental tactic because you can get a rental property for 5% down or three point a half percent down instead of 20% down if you live in it first, is finding an actual property with a floor plan that would work. We\u2019ve helped clients do this by buying properties with a high bedroom and bathroom count because that\u2019s more units that they can create to generate revenue.
We\u2019ve also had people that we\u2019ve helped doing this when they rent out part of the home as a short-term rental or a floor plan that can be moved around where walls are added to create more than one unit in the property itself. The key is not to focus on the expenses and keeping them low, but to focus on the income and getting it high. So when you\u2019re looking for the property, what you really want to do is look for a floor plan that either has a lot of bedrooms and bathrooms and has sufficient parking and is also in an area that people want to rent from, or you want to look for a floor plan where the basement that you could live in and you rent out maybe two units above or two units above and it has an ADU.
Something where you can get much more revenue coming in on the property which you have more control over. I call that forced cashflow than a property that you just bought at a lower price because that\u2019s not realistic. If you\u2019re trying to buy in a high appreciation market like Northern California where wages are high and the market is strong, you are less likely to find a cheap house. Reach out to me directly and I\u2019ll see if we can help you with that and start looking at properties with the most square footage and then, asking yourself, how could I manipulate and maneuver the square footage to where this would be a good house hack. Great question though, and I wish you the best in your endeavors.
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