{"id":14877,"date":"2025-01-30T13:51:46","date_gmt":"2025-01-30T13:51:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/imsfund.com\/?p=14877"},"modified":"2025-01-30T13:51:46","modified_gmt":"2025-01-30T13:51:46","slug":"openai-says-deepseek-copied-profited-off-its-work","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/imsfund.com\/index.php\/2025\/01\/30\/openai-says-deepseek-copied-profited-off-its-work\/","title":{"rendered":"OpenAI Says DeepSeek Copied, Profited Off Its Work"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>China-based startup DeepSeek became <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/01\/28\/business\/deepseek-owner-china-ai.html\" rel=\"follow\" target=\"_self\">an AI standout<\/a> this week by creating an AI model believed to be on par with leading models from U.S. startups \u2014 at a fraction of the cost. In a <a href=\"https:\/\/github.com\/deepseek-ai\/DeepSeek-V3\/blob\/main\/DeepSeek_V3.pdf\" rel=\"follow\" target=\"_self\">research paper<\/a> released last month, DeepSeek said it developed its AI for under $6 million in only two months, a far cry from the $100 million it takes U.S. startups to train AI \u2014 and that&#8217;s on the lower end of the spectrum, according to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.entrepreneur.com\/business-news\/anthropic-ceo-ai-will-cost-10-billion-to-train-by-2025\/476750\" rel=\"follow\" target=\"_self\">Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>It quickly rose to the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.entrepreneur.com\/business-news\/what-is-deepseek-cheap-chinese-ai-app-topping-the-charts\/486155\" rel=\"follow\" target=\"_self\">top of the app store charts<\/a>, challenging the U.S.&#8217;s position as the world&#8217;s leader in AI. The release set off a race for AI dominance and shook Big Tech stocks, causing AI chipmaker Nvidia to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wsj.com\/livecoverage\/stock-market-today-dow-sp500-nasdaq-live-01-27-2025\/card\/nvidia-stock-is-down-more-than-10-here-s-why--sZmsM8tvQFTS3iUBASHa?mod=article_inline\" rel=\"follow\" target=\"_self\">lose almost $600 billion<\/a> in market value one day and new competitor claims \u2014 from having an even better model to allegations of theft.<\/p>\n<p>According to White House AI and Crypto Czar David Sacks, DeepSeek&#8217;s arrival shows that Chinese companies are &#8220;hot on our heels&#8221; but that the U.S. maintains its leadership in AI. He says DeepSeek&#8217;s AI is on par with OpenAI&#8217;s o1 model, which came out about four months ago.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We basically have somewhere between a three and six-month lead on them [Chinese companies],&#8221; Sacks said. &#8220;But they are catching up very, very fast.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" class=\"lazyload\" loading=\"lazy\" role=\"presentation\" src=\"https:\/\/assets.entrepreneur.com\/images\/misc\/1738178800_DeepSeek-GettyImages-2196255677.jpg?width=1000\" style=\"height:685px; width:1000px\" width=\"1000\" height=\"685\"\/><sup><i>DeepSeek. Photo Illustration by Justin Sullivan\/Getty Images<\/i><\/sup><\/p>\n<h2>ChatGPT-maker OpenAI says DeepSeek is copying it<\/h2>\n<p>OpenAI and Microsoft <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/news\/articles\/2025-01-29\/microsoft-probing-if-deepseek-linked-group-improperly-obtained-openai-data\" rel=\"follow\" target=\"_self\">are investigating<\/a> whether DeepSeek used large amounts of OpenAI training data without permission for its own AI. OpenAI <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ft.com\/content\/a0dfedd1-5255-4fa9-8ccc-1fe01de87ea6\" rel=\"follow\" target=\"_self\">told The Financial Times<\/a> earlier this week that it had proof that DeepSeek used its large AI models to create its own through a process called distillation, in which one AI model learns from another like a student learning from a teacher.<\/p>\n<p>Sacks backed up OpenAI&#8217;s claims in an interview with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/media\/wake-up-call-us-leader-ai-says-white-house-ai-crypto-czar\" rel=\"follow\" target=\"_self\">Fox Business<\/a> on Tuesday.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;There&#8217;s substantial evidence that what DeepSeek did here is they distilled the knowledge out of OpenAI&#8217;s models,&#8221; Sacks said. &#8220;I think one of the things you&#8217;re going to see over the next few months is our leading AI companies taking steps to try and prevent distillation.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Other industry leaders say DeepSeek&#8217;s success is due to the collaborative nature of open-source AI models.<\/p>\n<p>DeepSeek &#8220;came up with new ideas and built them on top of other people&#8217;s work,&#8221; Meta&#8217;s chief AI scientist Yann LeCun <a href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/meta-ai-yann-lecun-deepseek-open-source-openai-2025-1\" rel=\"follow\" target=\"_self\">stated in a Threads post<\/a> on Saturday. &#8220;Because their work is published and open source, everyone can profit from it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<h2>Alibaba claims it has a better model<\/h2>\n<p>Chinese e-commerce company Alibaba is claiming that it has developed an even smarter model than DeepSeek&#8217;s.<\/p>\n<p>Alibaba on Wednesday released a new AI model called Qwen 2.5 Max edition that the company says scored better than AI from Meta, OpenAI, and DeepSeek in leading benchmark tests, per <a href=\"http:\/\/the%20U.S.%20Apple%20app%20store%20and%20within%20the%20top%20free%20Android%20apps%20on%20the%20Google%20Play%20Stor\" rel=\"follow\" target=\"_self\">Bloomberg<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Qwen 2.5-Max outperforms &#8230; almost across the board [OpenAI&#8217;s] GPT-4o, DeepSeek-V3 and [Meta&#8217;s] Llama-3.1-405B,&#8221; Alibaba&#8217;s cloud division stated in an announcement on its official WeChat account, according to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reuters.com\/technology\/artificial-intelligence\/alibaba-releases-ai-model-it-claims-surpasses-deepseek-v3-2025-01-29\/\" rel=\"follow\" target=\"_self\">Reuters<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><b>Related: <\/b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.entrepreneur.com\/business-news\/openai-oracle-softbank-team-up-for-stargate-ai-initiative\/485896\" rel=\"follow\" target=\"_self\">What Is Stargate? OpenAI, Oracle, Softbank, and President Trump Team Up for $500B AI Infrastructure Initiative.<\/a><\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.entrepreneur.com\/business-news\/openai-says-deepseek-copied-profited-off-its-work\/486305\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>China-based startup DeepSeek became an AI standout this week by creating an AI model believed to be on par with leading models from U.S. startups \u2014 at a fraction of the cost. In a research paper released last month, DeepSeek said it developed its AI for under $6 million in only two months, a far [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":14878,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"fifu_image_url":"https:\/\/assets.entrepreneur.com\/content\/3x2\/2000\/1738178762-DeepSeek-GettyImages-2196255677.jpg?format=pjeg&auto=webp","fifu_image_alt":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[9],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-14877","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-blog"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/imsfund.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14877","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/imsfund.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/imsfund.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/imsfund.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/imsfund.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=14877"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/imsfund.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14877\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":14879,"href":"https:\/\/imsfund.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14877\/revisions\/14879"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/imsfund.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/14878"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/imsfund.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=14877"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/imsfund.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=14877"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/imsfund.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=14877"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}